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| Posted Sat, Jan 15 2011 09:54 AM CST | ||
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KELLY WILLIAMSON KELLY WILLIAMSON POLLOK, TX 936-671-0485 Posts: 4 |
What is going to be the "New Thing" in the future when trucks/drivers(in the cattle hauling business) get overweight tickets now that csa 2010 as come into play and started this new scoring system. |
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| Posted Sat, Jan 15 2011 12:55 PM CST | ||
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STEVEN HOMFELD B&S LIVESTOCK HIGGINSVILLE, MO 660-641-0185 Posts: 11 |
I think ifr it was me getting the ticket i would ask the officer to make one out to the broker and the owner of the cattle. He will tell u he cant give them a ticket but you can sign the tickrt as a officer of the law and they will have a fine too.The drive's today have the right to say no to over loads.I think broker's and owner have been gettin loads hauled for half price of what it should be at. |
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| Posted Sat, Jan 15 2011 05:42 PM CST | ||
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MICHAEL FRITZ FRITZ TRUCKING FREDERICKSBURG, TX 830-688-6667 Posts: 26 |
I was told by DOT in Tx overweights don't count against points but who knows they all got a different answer for the same question sometimes leaving us all wonder what's right and what's wrong. | REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE |
| Posted Sat, Jan 15 2011 06:42 PM CST | ||
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ESTER KILLJOY FAMILY AFFAIR DISPATCH HUNTSVILLE, AL Posts: 9 |
its all geting harder but think of it like this 10 years ago lots of shipper would ship 15 loads and order 10 trucks but pay us no more we sld of got alot more now they will need or have to actully pay for all the trucks they sould of been using. lets all just hope rates go up as fast as fuel!! Have a great weekend. | REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE |
| Posted Sat, Jan 15 2011 07:07 PM CST | ||
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SEAN N SMN TRANS, LLC WILLISTON, FL 970-420-7092 Posts: 21 |
Points are only assessed if an inspection is done, be it a level 1, 2, or 3. An overweight ticket may not accrue any points if there is no inspection done. Also, the CSA points have nothing to do with your drivers license. |
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| Posted Sat, Jan 15 2011 08:37 PM CST | ||
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DUANE JACKSON DJ TRUCKING LONG PINE, NE 402-822-0045 Posts: 1 |
I was allso told by the D.O.T. in NE. that overweights don't add points | REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE |
| Posted Sat, Jan 15 2011 08:48 PM CST | ||
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STEVEN HOMFELD B&S LIVESTOCK HIGGINSVILLE, MO 660-641-0185 Posts: 11 |
Yes they do count. Thats what the csa rule book by jj keller. |
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| Posted Sun, Jan 16 2011 08:25 AM CST | ||
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CHARLIE NEWSOM CANEY CREEK TRUCKING , TX 903-388-5635 Posts: 12 |
I heard that any thing that goes against the truck goes against your drivers liscnse over wieght tickets are a moving violation just like speed and so on |
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| Posted Sun, Jan 16 2011 02:20 PM CST | ||
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STEVEN HOMFELD B&S LIVESTOCK HIGGINSVILLE, MO 660-641-0185 Posts: 11 |
So how may time's do u think the dot are not going to to do a level 3 just to put a mark on a company.If a drive or a company get too may points they can be put out of work for up to 3 years.Driver's can go from one company to another with too may point's.Company's can not just start up a new company . |
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| Posted Sun, Jan 16 2011 03:30 PM CST | ||
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DEREK LUKASSEN LUKASSEN TRUCKING INC. KIMBALL, NE 308-235-5596 Posts: 4 |
i was told the same thing points are only incurred if an inspection is done. and that the csa points dont count against your drivers license i was told that is another driver record that for companies to look at in a hiring situation. Im not an expert by far this is just how it was explained to me. |
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| Posted Sun, Jan 16 2011 03:36 PM CST | ||
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SEAN N SMN TRANS, LLC WILLISTON, FL 970-420-7092 Posts: 21 |
That is the problem, everyone "hears" something, but, never actually takes the time to find out for themselves. The only way to combat these types of overbearing government regulation is to become educated on the subject. I wonder how many have taken the time to read over the new hos proposal, and then leave comments for the fmcsa. I would be willing to bet not many. Then when it becomes law everyone will complain about the new rules. Once again csa 2010 has nothing to do with your actual drivers license, and if you believe it does, then I have to believe you also believe in black dogs running out in front of you when you are tired, or, a dot man giving you a hard time because his wife ran off with a truck driver and now he picks on all of them, and so on............................ |
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| Posted Sun, Jan 16 2011 09:00 PM CST | ||
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STEVEN HOMFELD B&S LIVESTOCK HIGGINSVILLE, MO 660-641-0185 Posts: 11 |
I have the rule book and your license have a number on it and as a driver the csa points go on that number.There for you get too many points you loss your job and them points are what insurence co look at when you try to get a job with another company and they can't hire you because you have too many point.The csa 2010 law's started as of 12/12/2010 in all state's. |
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| Posted Mon, Jan 17 2011 04:33 AM CST | ||
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CHARLIE NEWSOM CANEY CREEK TRUCKING , TX 903-388-5635 Posts: 12 |
I bet you if you get a ticket for over wieght or any valation your driver liscnes number going to be on the ticket not the trucking company you need to wake up and use your head not all your wild ideals . I bet you lose yours liscnse before the company loses theres what do you think |
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| Posted Mon, Jan 17 2011 04:50 AM CST | ||
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CHARLIE NEWSOM CANEY CREEK TRUCKING , TX 903-388-5635 Posts: 12 |
Run your drivers lisnces number after you get a ticket for over wieght or so on and see if your driver lisnces number was on the ticket or your company numbers on it your number going to be there thank about that. YOUR COMPANY DOES NOT HAVE A DRIVER LISNCES NUMBER THATS WHY THE DPS GIVES YOU THE TICKET IF NOT PAID YOUR ASS GOES TO JAIL NOT THE COMPANY |
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| Posted Mon, Jan 17 2011 07:32 AM CST | ||
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WALTER BREWER BREWER TRUCKING PONCA, OK 580-761-0814 Posts: 51 |
If you get any ticket speeding, overweight, light out, and warning tickets will give the driver points now. As a company you may want to hire a person but it will be the insurance company telling you who to hire and fire. | REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE |
| Posted Mon, Jan 17 2011 08:58 AM CST | ||
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SEAN N SMN TRANS, LLC WILLISTON, FL 970-420-7092 Posts: 21 |
What I think is that you are getting your information at the lunch counter! Do yourself a favor and go visit the csa website. They have a whole FAQ section that dispells a lot of the rumors. CSA points do not go on your license! There will be no "losing your CDL because of too many CSA points". Some safety guy, or insurance man may say you are uninsurable if you accrue too many points, but, you are not going to lose your license. It may become worthless to a point yes, but, no one is going to take it from you. The only way to lose it now are the same as before, i.e. dui, speeding tickets, wreckless driving, etc. The worse part about all of it I think is that insurance companies may have more reason to gouge you with high prices, which are high enough as it is. Why do people take things so personally? I am just trying to offer up some information from what I have learned and read. I would post the information here that I have read, but, I don't know how to copy and paste links, and all that kind of stuff. |
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| Posted Mon, Jan 17 2011 09:28 AM CST | ||
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STEVEN HOMFELD B&S LIVESTOCK HIGGINSVILLE, MO 660-641-0185 Posts: 11 |
Noboby said anything about lossing your license. That is the number the csa poeple will use for the driver.I as a company i have the csa 2010 rule book so iam not just at the launch counter running lips.For the guy was talking about company not haveing a drive license on a ticket. But they do have there dot number on there yes if you dont pay your fine the company can get a market on them too.They willnt go too jail or anything but it can make so they cant license that truck the next year with out getting a level 1 inspection been their bone that no fun. |
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| Posted Mon, Jan 17 2011 12:13 PM CST | ||
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KELLY WILLIAMSON KELLY WILLIAMSON POLLOK, TX 936-671-0485 Posts: 4 |
I did some digging around so I could further educate myself and I Found out that indeed the overweight tickets do NOT go against your CDL. They were going to but decided NOT to. I found that out via computer and the safety man at a local trucking company. Hope this helps yall as much as it did me. |
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| Posted Tue, Jan 18 2011 06:20 AM CST | ||
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JOHN WALLEN 4W LIVESTOCK KENSINGTON, KS 719-568-2447 Posts: 5 |
They might not count in Tx. but they do in Colo. I just went through a DOT audit last week, passed with flying colors, and I ask the trooper this very question. Overweights are treated like moving violations. This also holds true in Ks. I personally think it is bull since our buisiness is done by weight most of the time. Colo. State Patrol now does all the inspections here and the ports of entry just check weight, D/L, and registration...no inspections anymore, only if CSP is there and if they feel an inspection is needed they will call CSP. This also includes all of their mobile units. This is the information given to me when I had the audit. Hopes this helps. I personally think all of this is just a ploy to get rid of all the old time drivers, who are not afraid of the DOT. The new drivers can be molded to what the government wants. Just my opinion. Take care all and be safe.... |
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| Posted Wed, Jan 19 2011 07:28 AM CST | ||
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CHARLIE NEWSOM CANEY CREEK TRUCKING , TX 903-388-5635 Posts: 12 |
All it takes is one state to put on back burner and hurt you or licnes run 50 states not just the state you live in thank about it THIS GUY THAT I QUOTED ON IS RIGHT |
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| Posted Thu, Feb 03 2011 12:02 AM CST | ||
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COLLEEN GOODRICH JUST TRUCKIN CHIPPEWA FALLS, WI Posts: 12 |
Drivers now have a federal safety rating |
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| Posted Thu, Feb 03 2011 03:55 PM CST | ||
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BRUCE WRIGHT M LAZY J LIVESTOCK VIGO PARK, TX 406-390-2061 Posts: 34 |
I'am not as spooked about weigh tickets as log books . Frigging cow trucks have a bulls eyes on them. | REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE |