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| Posted Sun, Apr 23 2023 08:54 PM CST | ||
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HUEY SHIPMAN DEFIANCE TRANSPORTATION LLC TUTTLE, OK Posts: 1 |
Here lately I've seen alot of people posting $3 a mile loads. Fuels creeping back up and we all know we run a 50% deadhead alot so why these wannabe brokers posting this garbage . I can go broke at the house don't need no practice so not gonna haul for fuel money I just wondering who's actually hauling it | REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE |
| Posted Tue, Apr 25 2023 06:15 PM CST | ||
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MICHAEL SUMRALL MICHAEL SUMRALL INC BUECHE, LA Posts: 11 |
These " Brokers" think that if you live somewhere in the direction that said backhaul is going you should be grateful that the rate they quote you barely covers half the fuel cost. Then there are the newbies that just want to haul anything because they do not have a clue what it actually takes to make a living in trucking ! Cheap Freight equals run down broken equipment and bankruptcy !!! I'm with you i can go broke sitting at home a lot slower than i can ripping up and down the highways hauling cheap freight ! Also I don't think I've ever actually hauled a true backhaul. "Backhaul" when you load at point A and go to point B. Then said load is rejected or refused and then returned to point A without unloading. | REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE |
| Posted Fri, Apr 28 2023 01:20 PM CST | ||
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CASSIDY NEUGEBAUER NEUGEBAUER TRUCKING HOLLY, CO 719-691-9064 Posts: 3 |
Nowadays the brokers/shippers want everything done for a back haul rate pretty sad some people are hauling live animals for 3 and 4 dollars a mile the bouncing back and think they are making money it needs to stop cause at this rate everyone is making money except the truck why work to barley pay for fuel let alone tires,oil and all the rest of the maintenance stuff that just keeps going up and the rates go down just doesn’t make a dam bit of sense so if it doesn’t make sense don’t do it just go home and work on the honey do list not getting paid but ur staying busy so more less the same thing working ur ass off for nothing out here!!!! | REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE |
| Posted Fri, Apr 28 2023 06:16 PM CST | ||
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KENNY COMPTON KOWPOKE CATTLE NORTH TAZEWELL, VA Posts: 1 |
There is no backhaul they going one way unless you taking same cows back to same shoot not sure who or where they came up with that people quit taking that crap and dispatch and brokers cutting other people's throat would solve that issue. |
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| Posted Sat, Apr 29 2023 12:15 PM CST | ||
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MICHAEL REED UNDERCOVER OUTLAWS L.L.C. SEDALIA, MO 660-596-6260 Posts: 5 |
There are a few things that would seriously help (are y'all paying attention here?)our industry and it only takes MOST of us, not all, but better than half because when word gets back to the other 45 percent and they start raising hell because they didn't make near enough money is when we'll gain ground and that won't take long with all of the gossiping hens we got.. First, LET THEIR OVERHEAD AND EXPENSES REMAIN THEIRS! We need to STOP letting a broker/ farmer/ buyer tell us "stop at such n such truck stop and weigh in and out and then call me with your weights". We're giving them a sh*t ton of money (no pun intended) for something we could care less about unless you plan to prorate for weight. Same goes for their demand for a clean trailer and shavings. If they want a clean trailer they need to cover that cost OR figure it in with your rate and we need them to know that we're figuring that in with our rate. Yes, we understand they're shipping bred cows or dairy springers but THEY are the ones in the bred cow or dairy business, not us!! That is their expense, not ours. Nothing is a greater excess expense than the demand for a clean trailer and wood shavings and you've only hauled 1 load since your last washout. Remember, it's not just the retail cost it's also the miles and time lost driving around LOOKING FOR A DAMN WASHOUT!! Next, we need to be demanding detention pay at the packing houses. The law says that detention pay has to be established upfront before the load is hauled. Why haven't we done that yet?? They'll pay those half a pile of crap, white Volvo mafia sumbitches detention pay for every hour they're held up longer than 2 hours past their appointment times. When did WE become worth LESS THAN those chicken hauling hacks!!?? Sitting at JBS or Gibbon, or anywhere, for 14 hours being used as a portable holding pen is bullsh*t (man, there are all kinds of puns in this rant) and ALL OF US are losing a lot of money on that front. Lastly, stop letting THEM set your rates!! You don't get to call me to haul a load for you and then tell me what my rate is gonna be!! W.T.F.??? They're OUR trucks and trailers and drivers. WE'RE the bosses. WE set the rates around here!! If they don't like it, keep stepping. Now, that doesn't mean don't be flexible and negotiable especially if you know you've got something else to haul out of their destination area. If we would gain back the reputation of being fair and honest, they couldn't question us and keep playing these stupid "freight rate" games AND they wouldn't be able to take advantage of us any longer. If they don't like our rates then let them buy their own trucks and trailers and set their own rates, same as us. F olks, there are NO MEGA CARRIERS in the livestock business. We can absolutely take our business back. The buyers and brokers have been given too much power here and we're the dumb asses that gave that power to them. START TAKING IT BACK | REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE |
| Posted Wed, May 03 2023 09:55 AM CST | ||
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MICHAEL SUMRALL MICHAEL SUMRALL INC BUECHE, LA Posts: 11 |
I haul a lot of tanker loads as well as cattle and even feed or food grade loads in a hopper bottom they all pay for the washouts. It just blows my mind why we have to pay out of our pockets for cattle trailer washouts, not to mention there are fewer places to washout a cattle trailer than a tanker or hopper. Hell the cattleman's guide even says we should washout after each load to prevent cross contamination and spread of diseases among cattle but none of the cattlemen want to pay or even provide a place to washout. |
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| Posted Thu, May 04 2023 10:28 AM CST | ||
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QUENTON BROWN RANCH HAND TRUCKING ODESSA, TX 432-212-4011 Posts: 54 |
Yall really wanna no the truth when Eastern went belly up that's when all the bs hit the fan that's why the rates are the way they are and going to get worse cause there ain't no pride left in this sh.. | REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE |
| Posted Mon, May 08 2023 01:13 PM CST | ||
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MICHAEL REED UNDERCOVER OUTLAWS L.L.C. SEDALIA, MO 660-596-6260 Posts: 5 |
I'm not sorry, sir, but I disagree with that statement. Yes, Eastern left a mess and its affects were long term for some, short term for many and almost forgotten about by most. That was a long time ago and those who could recover, already have. Those who couldn't recover...well, everything needs a purge now and again. As for your comment about "no pride left in this..." I say to you, sir, why are you even here commenting then?? Could it be that you care about this industry and feel like you are a part of something great?? Yeah, we call that feeling "pride". There's more here than what you might think. More even within yourself. When we all start believing there is no pride in this is when we all start driving white Volvo trucks with holes cut into the sleeper floor to sh*t out of... |
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| Posted Wed, May 10 2023 02:31 PM CST | ||
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QUENTON BROWN RANCH HAND TRUCKING ODESSA, TX 432-212-4011 Posts: 54 |
you don't no what kind of pride I'm talking bout all the good bullhaulers are dead and gone or sitting on the couch. And no it wasn't a long time ago tell me how many people a jump out there truck help you load stop when you break down give you a sandwich if your hungry or a bear report we talk in code and I can go up and down and not get any of that then yall wanna sit on hear and talk about the rate cause that's the pride yall carry that's why there's all ready Freight hauler taking over o well im out of it sick of it you can haul them thangs and not no nothing about em Don't forget your hot shot |
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| Posted Fri, May 12 2023 01:45 PM CST | ||
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QUENTON BROWN RANCH HAND TRUCKING ODESSA, TX 432-212-4011 Posts: 54 |
I no a couple of boys out of MISSOURI But I no you was a prime driver you should be happy they let you in are industry they just got desperate I'm a gift to it born and raised that way big Texan so don't Come at me side ways when you can haul em in a cabover with a Suicide trailer then let me no but for now shut the .... .. BULL HAULER AINT SCARED 432 WEST TEXAS BOY WERE THE WATER IS HARD AND THE CATTLE ARE RANK GET YOU SOME |
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| Posted Sun, May 14 2023 10:25 AM CST | ||
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MICHAEL REED UNDERCOVER OUTLAWS L.L.C. SEDALIA, MO 660-596-6260 Posts: 5 |
I seem to have angered you, sir. That was not my intention. This particular forum post was about rates and money not quality of a driver or companies of the past so I was simply trying to steer the conversation back to what this particular subject was really about. Our bottom line. I guess I could simply sum it up with 1 quick question and 1 quick answer. Here goes. Question. When was the last time we walked into a FedEx or UPS store and told them "I need this package shipped and this is what I'm going to pay for shipping"?? Anyone ever get away with that?? Me neither. Here's the real simple answer to the cheap rate problem. Look at freight rates in that area. Some are better than ours. If a buyer or broker wants freight hauler rates or cheaper simply hand up the phone. OR, give them freight hauler service. Unload every 10 to 11 hours on a long haul and take your 10 hour break. When they complain let them know your service is based on their rate. When they cut the rate and it's not worth it to run hard for that kind of money. It's truly not!! Again, it's time we take back our industry. If we don't do this and do it together, the playing field will be leveled in the next 10 years and we'll simply be freight haulers with holes in our trailers. I thought we in the livestock industry were all about long term thinking for the generations to come. Let's get back to that. Yeah, we're going to piss some people off and shake things up a bit, however, one of the reasons we do what we do is because we have problems with authority and our tendency to be rule beakers and risk takers. You see how America killed Bud Lites stock?? Not all people, but most did that when they'd had enough of the crap. They proved to the entire country that people banning together can control the bottom line. Now, imagine if WE started doing the simple things I've listed here in this forum... They say there's no unity left. Let's prove them wrong. It can be done. | REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE |
| Posted Tue, May 16 2023 10:48 PM CST | ||
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MICHAEL REED UNDERCOVER OUTLAWS L.L.C. SEDALIA, MO 660-596-6260 Posts: 5 |
Ya know, sir. Not one time did I make this a personal attack towards you. I simply disagreed with you and tried to steer the conversation back to what it was about. I don't appreciate you attacking me on a personal level and you obviously DONT know me because I've never driven for Prime.... You know who does what you just did,sir and they don't allow you to disagree with them without attacking on a personal level?? F*@KING DEMOCRATS. Let's keep it respectful here, ok?? I've said all I need to here. Good day and be safe y'all |
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| Posted Thu, May 18 2023 08:37 AM CST | ||
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JACK MAC NONE BULLSNOT, EM, MX Posts: 20 |
Best thing to do to the guy from Odessa is ignore him. I read the forum just to kind of keep up with what is going on in the industry. Over the past few years when he gets a nose full of bad stuff he will start spouting off. I have never read anything written by that person that has any significance to the industry. The thing that needs to be focused on is getting a good rate for a good job. Somebody evidently is willing to haul what they are calling fats out of Crockett Tx for less than 4.00 per mile, I see the loads pop up from time to time. I guess y'all need to find out who is hauling those loads and talk with this person to find out how they are making it hauling that cheap. My bet is they are not from Texas | REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE |
| Posted Sat, May 20 2023 10:29 AM CST | ||
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QUENTON BROWN RANCH HAND TRUCKING ODESSA, TX 432-212-4011 Posts: 54 |
I don't care what anybody says I been hauling for over 2 decades cattle and still in my low 40's I been hurting fillings for decades Freight haulers and yall over hear crying don't even haul cattle whichway is a joke you hual Freight around funky town get off are page before I spit some dip in your eye | REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE |
| Posted Sat, May 20 2023 01:29 PM CST | ||
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CARLOS ESPIRICUETA KNM/ESPIRICUETA LAND & CATTLE EDINBURG, TX Posts: 1 |
I've been wondering the same thing on who is Hauling those Crockett Tx loads east...just doesn't make sense. | REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE |
| Posted Tue, Jun 06 2023 11:03 AM CST | ||
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KERRY YOUNG K&K TRUCKING BOWIE, TX 806-375-2179 Posts: 1 |
you hit the nail on the head there |
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