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OBAMA SAYS NO KID UNDER THE AGE OF 18 IS ALOUD TO WORK ON A FARM
Posted Thu, Apr 26 2012 05:09 PM CST
CHAD GILBERTSON
CHAD GILBERTSON TRUCKING
LEOTA, MN

Posts: 1

yep thats right your own kid is not allowed to work on the family farm anymore this includes but is not limited to driveing a tractor in the feild hauling the crop to town sorting cattle or hogs anythng to do with on the farm until you are 18 years of age or older. this administration has completly lost there minds

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Posted Thu, Apr 26 2012 06:03 PM CST
JAKE MCCALL
-JK BAR JK TRANSPORT
CAMERON, TX

Posts: 28
Originally Posted by: CHAD GILBERTSON
Quote: " yep thats right your own kid is not allowed to work on the family farm anymore this includes but is not limited to driveing a tractor in the feild hauling the crop to town sorting cattle or hogs anythng to do with on the farm until you are 18 years of age or older. this administration has completly lost there minds"

Yes,I heard that on the news . My comment to President
Obama (back when i went to school, that's how we address the
president , no matter what you thought of him. It was called
respect.) now back to my comment, the kids that are raised
own a farm or work on a farm are some of the best kids that
i have been around .(as beening well mannered and polite,
And I am glad to say I raise my kids that way). Maybe the president
ought to concentrate on passing a law on the kids that wear
their pants below their butt. I believe that is more of a problem
than the kids working on a farm. The kids on the farm are
ready for the real world when they become old enough. I'm
willing to bet if you took a survey of the young kids in out jail
system the percentage of the kids in trouble with the law,
Are the one's that wasn't taught how to wear their pants
properly. And if any of you think this is playing the race
card , than think again , its the truth and that's what wrong with
our nation today. We make excuses for them. It's time to face
reality Mr. President. This has been a sore subject to me. I know
there is more problems, than to bother something that is
working. HAPPY TRAILS AND GOD BLESS AMERICA
AND GOD BLESS JOHN WAYNE.
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Posted Thu, Apr 26 2012 08:24 PM CST
AUSTIN WARD
CATTLE RUSTLERS TRUCKING LLC
RED OAK, TX

Posts: 5
Here is the link: http://www.infowars.com/obama-ban-on-youth-farm-chores-part-of-larger-power-grab/

OBAMA has lost his mind! Saying that kids under 18 are not even allowed at a livestock sale! DONT THINK SO! Both my girls go with me to the sales and no one will stop that! They are also revoking the government’s approval of safety training and certification taught by independent groups like 4-H and FFA. Which means school programs such as FFA will loose all funding! REALLY!

Well Mr President, you may be the commander and chief of the United States, but you sure are not the parent of my children, nor will you or anyone ever tell me what my kids can and cant do! WE WILL VOTE YOU OUT OF OFFICE! Instead of trying to improve the economy or the unemployment, he wants to make laws telling us parents what our kids are allowed to do! HELL WILL FREEZE OVER before that will ever happen!

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Posted Fri, Apr 27 2012 06:37 AM CST
BUTCH MOSLEY
BUTCH MOSLEY LIVESTOCK
MCGREGOR, TX

Posts: 16
Originally Posted by: JAKE MCCALL
Quote: "Yes,I heard that on the news . My comment to President Obama (back when i went to school, that's how we address the president , no matter what you thought of him. It was called respect.) now back to my comment, the kids that are raised own a farm or work on a farm are some of the best kids that i have been around .(as beening well mannered and polite, And I am glad to say I raise my kids that way). Maybe the president ought to concentrate on passing a law on the kids that wear their pants below their butt. I believe that is more of a problem than the kids working on a farm. The kids on the farm are ready for the real world when they become old enough. I'm willing to bet if you took a survey of the young kids in out jail system the percentage of the kids in trouble with the law, Are the one's that wasn't taught how to wear their pants properly. And if any of you think this is playing the race card , than think again , its the truth and that's what wrong with our nation today. We make excuses for them. It's time to face reality Mr. President. This has been a sore subject to me. I know there is more problems, than to bother something that is working. HAPPY TRAILS AND GOD BLESS AMERICA AND GOD BLESS JOHN WAYNE."

Jake i support you 100 %...I will continue to work my kids on the place here... They respect adults with yes maam and yes sir....Also after a long days work they go to sleep really well...LOL..My Dad always said idle hands are a devils workshop...1 question who is actually gonna enforce this?????
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Posted Fri, Apr 27 2012 09:50 PM CST
FRANK PRINCE
SHED HORN HAULING LLC
DRUMMOND, MT
406-239-9690

Posts: 1
Originally Posted by: BUTCH MOSLEY
Quote: "Jake i support you 100 %...I will continue to work my kids on the place here... They respect adults with yes maam and yes sir....Also after a long days work they go to sleep really well...LOL..My Dad always said idle hands are a devils workshop...1 question who is actually gonna enforce this?????"

As of late last evening the new additions to the child labor laws of the department of labor were with drawn. How ever our son is 13 and wrote and gave this speach to the Montana Farm bureau and gave it at the FFA district contest. I would like to share this with you.

I wake up to the sound of my mom hollering down the hall “Get out of bed. NOW!” Yes, this is typically how my summer day starts. I drag my self out of bed and head out to feed my pigs. I have two sows and a couple litters of piglets to tend to. Then it’s off to milk my cow. Once that is done I head out to the hayfield where I cut hay all morning and then it’s off to pick up the bales from yesterday. After all that is done, I work in my one acre vegetable garden for the afternoon.
This is just an ordinary day for me on the ranch. I am only twelve years old and I help run the ranch that has been in my family for over 140 years. I guess you can say agriculture is in my blood. I am a 7th grader in Drummond Montana and I am a member of the 4-H and FFA. I enjoy working on the ranch and being involved in agricultural organizations. I plan to continue my involvement with agriculture through high school by staying in 4-H and FFA and using these opportunities to develop my leadership skills and network with other people like me.
After high school I plan to attend a technical college and become a diesel mechanic. I hope to work on large equipment like tractors, swathers and semi’s, as well creating racing lawn mowers. I plan to remain a part of the agricultural industry and hope to continue my involvement in my family’s ranching operation.
It scares me to think that my future career and the future of my family’s ranch may be on the line today. The US Department of Labor is proposing some new legislation that has the potential to ruin youth agricultural organizations, destroy job opportunities for young people and damage the Nation’s economy.
This legislation, which calls for changes in the Child Labor Rules, is attempting remove the rights of children under the age of 16 to work on an agricultural operation such as a farm or ranch. Some of the new regulations would make it illegal for people under the age of 16 to run equipment, work around any type of livestock or herd cattle on horseback. This would include branding, vaccinating, dehorning, castrating and the treatment of sick animals. The Department of Labor’s reasoning for these new policies is that kids like me, the ones under 16, lack the cognitive ability to perform this task. I find this totally insulting. I have been working with animals, operating machinery and riding horses all my life and suddenly my age is what determines my “cognitive ability”.
I believe that it is important to learn how to work at a young age. I also understand there are things that need to be done, on a daily basis, and that I have responsibilities. These qualities of a strong work ethic, resourcefulness and responsibility have been long associated with Ag kids. We are sought by business and industry because we know how to work. So in a time when our country is battling unemployment, a struggling economy and generations of unmotivated youth, our government is going to un-employ hundreds of thousands of hard working individuals. This just doesn’t make any sense.
Right now kids my age can take safety training courses through organizations like the county extension service, 4-H, FFA and the Farm Bureau to qualify them to work with equipment, breed livestock and perform other agricultural tasks that may be dangerous. This new legislation would eliminate those programs. The Department of Labor wants to require over 90 hours of safety instruction before a student would even be able to take a test. This is over half a school year! I look forward to going to ag class, this is where I get to do the things that make sense to me, like work with wood, weld and fix engines, but this new law would make it almost impossible for me to get the training I would need to be able to run a battery powered drill within a single school year.
The other thing this law would prohibit is the working with and showing of animals such as 4-H steers and horses. This would essentially kill the 4-H program. I use the money from my market and breeding hogs to invest in my horticulture and swine operations, contribute to my local economy and save for college. Thousands of kids have paid for college by raising and selling market animals for the county fair, or used the skills learned through 4-H to prepare them for the work force or military careers, but it is just now that we are no longer considered cognitively able to do this.
The other organization that this will effect is the FFA. FFA members are required to have a supervised agricultural experience, this is a business that they run, a job that they work or an experiment that they conduct, to help them become prepared for a job or own a business later in life. These kids not only work or run their own business but they help out their community’s economy. In 2011 the students of agricultural education in Montana earned and invested over 3.5 million dollars in Montana’s economy. Last year we chartered a chapter in Drummond and the 27 members have made an economic impact of over 43,000 dollars in the last 13 months, if you consider that there are over half a million FFA members nationwide, this is a substantial chunk of the American economy. This new law would put all of these kids out of work or cause them to lose their businesses.
As you can see this new legislation could really change the face of agriculture as we know it. It would not only un-employ thousands, damage the American economy and destroy the agricultural youth organizations; it would change my life dramatically. This last month I got to help my dad pull the engine out of his semi. Not only did I learn 17 new cuss words, but I learned about parts, processes and the skills needed to work in my future career. I sure hope that the Department of Labor wakes up and realizes that kids who start working long before the age of 16 are the ones who are not standing in an unemployment line by the age of 25. Agriculture has been the driving force in our country for over two centuries; it will remain that way because people like me will instill the same values in my kids as my parents did and their parents before them.

Garett Prince. Age 13




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Posted Sat, Apr 28 2012 02:08 PM CST
CHASE N CATTLE CHASE
CHASE N CATTLE
GILBERT, AZ
602-768-0588

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i wish more kids were like garret,keep the good work, REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE
Posted Sun, Apr 29 2012 08:55 AM CST
CHET RO
SOMERSET LANDSCAPING SERVICES
HILLSBOROUGH, NJ
908-359-1400

Posts: 1
I sure hope and pray the American people dont vote this guy in again. REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE
Posted Sun, Apr 29 2012 03:31 PM CST
CHUCK WOLF
CW WOLF TRUCKING
SILVER CITY, NM
575-538-5903

Posts: 5
Young Mr. Prince,
You need to post an email and send this around!!! Your message is a powerful message and so inspiring. I would gladly pass this around. Our American kids need to know how to work and that work brings enjoyment and teaches how to be a responsible citizen. Thanks for sharing!
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Posted Sun, Apr 29 2012 05:14 PM CST
CHUCK WOLF
CW WOLF TRUCKING
SILVER CITY, NM
575-538-5903

Posts: 5
Originally Posted by: CHET RO
Quote: "I sure hope and pray the American people dont vote this guy in again."

AMEN!!!!
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Posted Mon, Apr 30 2012 07:19 AM CST
GARY BETHARD
FOGGY HILL LLC
CHECK, VA
540-651-3987

Posts: 23

On Thursday, April 26, I received an e-mail from Farm Bureau that said the "Deptartment of Labor withdraws proposed regulations on child Ag labor" and "this regulation will not be pursued for the duration of the Obama administration."

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