JUNK LOAD NOW WHO PAYS
Posted Thu, Feb 02 2012 09:02 PM CST
JIM SMITH
JJ SMITH TRUCKING
CORRECTIONVILLE, IA
712-251-5545

Posts: 3
hauled a load of cows from oklahoma to sioux city ,ia back in oct., not good cows told to load them anyway, couldnt keep 1 up stopped unloaded rearanged took off again ,when got to sioux city that one was dead i agreed to pay for half the old thing kept sending him bills no response finally got ahold of him bout 3 wks ago , and after 3 months he said there were lame cows and another dead one now he wants me to pay over 1000 dol for this that means i would owe him for hauling his old malnurished cows whats next step if anyone wants to no his name i will be glad to post thanks for input
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Posted Thu, Feb 02 2012 10:47 PM CST
JOHN TELLES
CENTRAL COAST PROVISIONS
YERINGTON, NV
775-463-4112

Posts: 31
Documentation,WHERE is the paper work telling you to load these unfit bovines? If you had it there would be no problem,remember this NICE GUY"S FINISH LAST.
Only you as the driver representing the owner or the owner of the truck,has the right to say what goes on the truck and what stays.!!! JUST the FACTS sorry.
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Posted Fri, Feb 03 2012 11:40 AM CST
GARRETT HUFF
HUFF TRUCKING
DESOTO , WI

Posts: 7

The cow that died on the truck is your responsability, thats why we carry insurance. Once the animals are all off the truck, they are no longer your responsability! So anything that went lame or died on his ranch, is his problem. And yes, documentation is a very cheap insurance plan if your are gonna be forced to haul junk livestock.
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Posted Fri, Feb 10 2012 01:46 PM CST
DONALD WALKER
DONALD WALKER
BOONES MILL, VA
540-493-1560

Posts: 17
IM SURE THIS WILL STIR UP ALL THE DO GOODERS BUT U GOT THE SHAFT AND UR NOT GONNA COME OUT ON IT AND HERE IS HOW U HANDLE THAT. THERE IS NOTHING TO PROTECT A WORKIN MAN JUSTICE IS BOUGHT AND SOLD IN AMERICA BUT THESE PEOPLE( I GUESS I BETTER SAY THAT) WILL ONLY STOP DISHING IT OUT IF THEY SUFFER FOR IT. U MAKE SURE THAT THIS COSTS HIM A LOT MORE THAN IT COSTS U BUT DONT GET CAUGHT. WETHER IT B DOCTOR BILLS OR EQUIPMENT PROBLEMS OR U KNOW USE UR IMAGINATION. ITS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY DO ME WRONG AND IT WILL MAKE THEM THINK NEXT TIME ABOUT DOING A MAN WRONG. U DO GOODERS PROBLY JUST GOT MORE MONEY THAN ME AND CAN AFFORD TO TAKE IT IN THE (&^^*(iu*( REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE
Posted Sat, Feb 11 2012 07:48 AM CST
KENNY KAY
CUSTOM CATTLE COMPANY, INC.
HALLSVILLE, TX
903-720-2324

Posts: 55
Originally Posted by: DONALD WALKER
Quote: "IM SURE THIS WILL STIR UP ALL THE DO GOODERS BUT U GOT THE SHAFT AND UR NOT GONNA COME OUT ON IT AND HERE IS HOW U HANDLE THAT. THERE IS NOTHING TO PROTECT A WORKIN MAN JUSTICE IS BOUGHT AND SOLD IN AMERICA BUT THESE PEOPLE( I GUESS I BETTER SAY THAT) WILL ONLY STOP DISHING IT OUT IF THEY SUFFER FOR IT. U MAKE SURE THAT THIS COSTS HIM A LOT MORE THAN IT COSTS U BUT DONT GET CAUGHT. WETHER IT B DOCTOR BILLS OR EQUIPMENT PROBLEMS OR U KNOW USE UR IMAGINATION. ITS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY DO ME WRONG AND IT WILL MAKE THEM THINK NEXT TIME ABOUT DOING A MAN WRONG. U DO GOODERS PROBLY JUST GOT MORE MONEY THAN ME AND CAN AFFORD TO TAKE IT IN THE (^^*(iu*("

Lmbo! You make an excellent point. I agree, you certainly can go about collecting this way and it would certainly make them think twice about doing it again. Sad that we have to " return to the days of Dodge City" or the"O.K. Corral" to collect a debt, but the legal system is so convoluted and messed up. I'm not supporting or condoning this method of collection, but it seems to get people's attention that want to screw you,lol! I use the "Good Book" way myself by turning the other cheek once, but after that well that's leaves it open for interpretation of what to do next.
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Posted Sat, Feb 25 2012 09:18 AM CST
BEN BROWNLOW
TEXAS CATTLE TRANSPORT LLC
LARUE, TX
903-391-0124

Posts: 6
First of all, you are the boss of what goes on the trailer. With that being said, when loading weak or sick cattle it should be documented on your paperwork and both shipper and receiver should be well aware of the fact before you leave the loading chute. The receiver should sign the paperwork that has the documentation of down or sick cattle before you leave the unloading chute. Without the documented paperwork, you just took one for the team. File your loss with your insurance company or file a law-suit. Our bill of ladings have this pre-printed on them that all sick, weak, and poor cattle are shipped at the owner's own risk. Most knowledgable cattleman know when a death on the trailer is due to the health of the cattle, weather conditions (severe heat or cold), or driver error and therefore do not charge back to the trucking company unless it is deemed driver error. If all this has been done, a good @$$- whoopin might be what needs to take place. REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE
Posted Tue, Feb 28 2012 05:40 PM CST
BOBBY WEST
WEST CATTLE CO.
LOWELL, OH
740-517-3423

Posts: 37
When I haul junk cows or bulls I have the shipper sign off on the invoice that I'm not responsible for downers. That is just common sense business. With his statement and signature it will hold up in court if he doesnt stand up to his statement. Never have a problem with it but I deal with reputable dealers. REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE
Posted Tue, Feb 28 2012 07:36 PM CST
JIM SMITH
JJ SMITH TRUCKING
CORRECTIONVILLE, IA
712-251-5545

Posts: 3
the problem was i took this load from a friend who helped me get a load, my driver loaded them at a sale barn no one there to help and at night so hard to see them.No one to sign papers and was told to load them all, did what we were told now i get the shaft. Just like two wks ago one of my trucks was goin home from haulin a load, a woman decided she didnt want to live anylonger so she steered her boyfriends car at my truck of course she had no license and hehad no ins. 12,000$ to tractor and 10,000$ to trailer and i get to stand the deductible she was in the hospital for 1 day then to the mental health institute so here i am shafted again. guess im done being a nice guy
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Posted Mon, Mar 05 2012 08:49 AM CST
AL ROWCLIFFE
THE CATTLE DRIVE XPRESS
STRAWBERRY POINT, IA
563-920-8907

Posts: 1
Everyone Know that you cant stand old cows. If you agreed to pay for half that was your first mistake. I haul old cows all the time and never paid for a dead one yet,. Its a buyers gamble. REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE
Posted Tue, Mar 06 2012 09:28 PM CST
JESSIE SHERMAN
BAR S LAND & CATTLE CO IND
IXONIA, WI

Posts: 15
I have to agree with some of the other's.You are solely responsibly for what you load,or let someone else load on your trailer.If the shipper insist that you are not allowed to stand and count the cattle,or you see something that look's out of sort's when you see the cattle.You have the right as the driver,to not let them load your trlr.As driver's you do have right's.Although the companies make you feel like you don't.There are law's out their that protect you too,not just the co.Not matter what the co tell's you such as "Take this load,and if something happen's we have your back".they neglect to tell you that they have your back as they are covering their companies own backside,and their own pocketbook.I have 23 yrs driving,and have pulled everything from Dry van,refer,Fltbd,Dropdeck,Overdimentional,Livestock.In those yrs I have heard just about every Lie there is come from the Co owner,all the way to the loneliest night dispatcher.I have been a Co drvr,to an owner op.There is no difference.1 impotant lesson I learned was to alway's have a small tape recorder,some sort of camera with film,and good batteries,and to alway's ask question's.If making a phone call too a shipper/receiver ask for a name of the person to whom you are speaking to.Also be sure to alway's have a Pen,and paper to write down this info.When you go to a shipper alway's have a camera,and a small digital recorder in a pocket.This is called CYA.These may be thing's you already know,so plz do not take offense to this,as this was my way of doing thing too protect my job,pocketbook,and my livelyhood. REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE
Posted Wed, Mar 07 2012 05:58 AM CST
JAKE MCCALL
-JK BAR JK TRANSPORT
CAMERON, TX

Posts: 28
Originally Posted by: JESSIE SHERMAN
Quote: "I have to agree with some of the other's.You are solely responsibly for what you load,or let someone else load on your trailer.If the shipper insist that you are not allowed to stand and count the cattle,or you see something that look's out of sort's when you see the cattle.You have the right as the driver,to not let them load your trlr.As driver's you do have right's.Although the companies make you feel like you don't.There are law's out their that protect you too,not just the co.Not matter what the co tell's you such as Take this load,and if something happen's we have your back.they neglect to tell you that they have your back as they are covering their companies own backside,and their own pocketbook.I have 23 yrs driving,and have pulled everything from Dry van,refer,Fltbd,Dropdeck,Overdimentional,Livestock.In those yrs I have heard just about every Lie there is come from the Co owner,all the way to the loneliest night dispatcher.I have been a Co drvr,to an owner op.There is no difference.1 impotant lesson I learned was to alway's have a small tape recorder,some sort of camera with film,and good batteries,and to alway's ask question's.If making a phone call too a shipper/receiver ask for a name of the person to whom you are speaking to.Also be sure to alway's have a Pen,and paper to write down this info.When you go to a shipper alway's have a camera,and a small digital recorder in a pocket.This is called CYA.These may be thing's you already know,so plz do not take offense to this,as this was my way of doing thing too protect my job,pocketbook,and my livelyhood."

Wow, cant believe some of the stuff people write such as
taperecorder, camera & etc. what has happen to the
cowhaulin industry . Guess all the good ol boys are gone
GOD BLESS AMERICA AND GOD BLESS
JOHN WAYNE
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Posted Sun, Mar 11 2012 07:19 PM CST
JESSIE SHERMAN
BAR S LAND & CATTLE CO IND
IXONIA, WI

Posts: 15
Say what you want.Time's have changed,and so has society.Companies no longer look after their driver's,only looking out for their own pocketbook,and themselve's.We are our own first line of Defense,and we as individual's are the only person we can rely on to Cover our own rear's.So if you truly think that your co will stand behind you no matter what happen's than you are sadly mistaken in your judgement.I hope you never have to find out first hand. REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE
Posted Fri, Mar 16 2012 02:40 PM CST
JAKE MCCALL
-JK BAR JK TRANSPORT
CAMERON, TX

Posts: 28
Originally Posted by: JESSIE SHERMAN
Quote: "Say what you want.Time's have changed,and so has society.Companies no longer look after their driver's,only looking out for their own pocketbook,and themselve's.We are our own first line of Defense,and we as individual's are the only person we can rely on to Cover our own rear's.So if you truly think that your co will stand behind you no matter what happen's than you are sadly mistaken in your judgement.I hope you never have to find out first hand."

Well if that's wat u think u got to do is
take pic's and record someone to cover yourself,
Then do it . Where I come from we call them type
of people snitches, maybe it's a lil different where
you come from. I guess I will cross that bridge
when I get to it. GOD BLESS AMERICA and
GOD BLESS JOHN WAYNE. Happy Trails

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