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Posted Mon, Dec 06 2010 03:36 PM CST
DAVID CONRAD
CONRAD LIVESTOCK LLC.
MILTON, WV
304-840-5589

Posts: 7
just wondering who stands the loss on dead (cargo) ? shipper, reciever, or carrier? REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE
Posted Mon, Dec 13 2010 06:04 PM CST
DAVID CONRAD
CONRAD LIVESTOCK LLC.
MILTON, WV
304-840-5589

Posts: 7
1000 hits and no replies come on truckers. doesn't anyone have an experience or knowledge about this? REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE
Posted Mon, Dec 13 2010 06:45 PM CST
RICK GOBEL
GOBEL RANCH, LTD.
BATTLE MOUNTAIN, NV
530-218-9057

Posts: 17
Their are alot of variables for who is responsible. Ultimately I think that the carrier/truck is responsible. Myself, I have a disclaimer on my frieght bills that cover me in the event the cattle are freshly dipped, weak, sick, crippled and so on. Sometimes I will get a signed waiver from the people loading me if I feel that the cattle are in danger, if they are trying to overload me or load me with really weak cattle. Point is, get it in writing or your going to pay for it. REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE
Posted Tue, Dec 14 2010 08:35 AM CST
DAVID CONRAD
CONRAD LIVESTOCK LLC.
MILTON, WV
304-840-5589

Posts: 7
Thanks for the advice Rick nice to here from you. REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE
Posted Tue, Dec 14 2010 07:20 PM CST
GREG WEBER
GREG WEBER TRUCKING INC
FORT BRANCH, IN
812-449-6998

Posts: 12

everybodys prolly different ,just make sure everybodys on the same page before it happens. i dont stand any dead or the rate would be higher. also there's a difference between (cargo insurance) & (death in transit) make sure you know your policy rules !! good luck

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Posted Mon, Dec 20 2010 11:22 PM CST
TMC CATTLE COMPANY INC
VERDEN, OK
405-453-7255

Posts: 10

in the cargo insurance, i was informed by my insurance agent today that CARGO insurance covers ENTIRE LOSS of the load ONLY !!!! that was thru NTIS heartford cargo on the policy. if a driver has a wreck so to speak, as it was explained to me today, it is better for the CATTLE if the truck were to completely be UPSET / ROLLED over for heartford to cover the loss of cattle. yes we can turn in a claim on the livestock to hartford but it is up to the INDIVIDUAL ADJUSTER to PAY or NOT PAY the claim that is filed. which i have a problem with, as another carrier here in this topic we have NOT RESPONSIBLE for LAMED, SICK, DOWNED CATTLE when loaded by SHIPPER. as we have had 1 loss in several months, we found that it was easier to pay the cost of that calf and then we took it to a landfill which ended up costing us 60.00 for carcass removal. FYI!!

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Posted Tue, Dec 21 2010 09:36 AM CST
DAVID CONRAD
CONRAD LIVESTOCK LLC.
MILTON, WV
304-840-5589

Posts: 7
I have same coverage with hartford. pay thousands of dollars and don't cover what you need. rich shippers don't pay near enough, brokers take their cut and you stand all the loss (trucking life) REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE
Posted Sat, Jan 08 2011 08:36 PM CST
COLLEEN GOODRICH
JUST TRUCKIN
CHIPPEWA FALLS, WI

Posts: 12
Originally Posted by: DAVID CONRAD
Quote: "I have same coverage with hartford. pay thousands of dollars and don't cover what you need. rich shippers don't pay near enough, brokers take their cut and you stand all the loss (trucking life)"

Depending on who you are hauling for depends on if the Cattle owner will eat the cost of the dead or if they will charge you for the dead cattle and depending on the cost of the animal would indicate on if you would want to consider turning it into your insurance. Most insurance companies will not cover just one cow and expect the company to eat the cost of it. Most cattle owners bill the hauling company for any dead in a load (they just don't pay full rate when or if they pay you for the load) some pay less for the hauling of their cattle but they cover any dead cattle on any load because they get better service from most of the carriers they use for transporting them when they do not have to worry about paying for a lost animal. As a company owner you have to decide are you willing to take less per loaded mile to not have to pay for a down cow MAYBE or take the better pay and hope that your drivers are good enough to have no down cattle.
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