HAULING TO CHEAP
Posted Wed, Mar 21 2012 04:58 PM CST
BUTCH MOSLEY
BUTCH MOSLEY LIVESTOCK
MCGREGOR, TX

Posts: 16
How can some of you trucking companies be hauling so cheap???? I have heard of some trucks hauling loads back to Florida for 1350.00..When the mileage is exactly the same..Come on!!! Also hauling cattle to Goergia for 1100.00 for the same mileage???? You guys kill me....That will not work... Ok Ok OK!!!!! Lemme guess you wanna get something going back home...But sheesh!!!! Blow 1 tire at least to say and you made nothing.... Step up make them people who bought the cattle pay you....Had to get this off my chest
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Posted Thu, Mar 22 2012 07:00 PM CST
BLAIN PARRISH
-P
FARWELL, TX
254-679-9427

Posts: 5
you damn right mr mosely that dont wash>............... These people that haul for nothin have no balls to stand up and say no thank you thats to cheap
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Posted Sat, Mar 24 2012 03:20 PM CST
BUTCH MOSLEY
BUTCH MOSLEY LIVESTOCK
MCGREGOR, TX

Posts: 16
Blaine it jus pisses me off... No absolute way they can come out.....But i guess the like running for free
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Posted Tue, Mar 27 2012 02:31 PM CST
JASON PAGLIARINI
SOUTHWEST LIVESTOCK
DEL RIO, TX
830-775-2471

Posts: 1
Originally Posted by: BUTCH MOSLEY
Quote: "How can some of you trucking companies be hauling so cheap???? I have heard of some trucks hauling loads back to Florida for 1350.00..When the mileage is exactly the same..Come on!!! Also hauling cattle to Goergia for 1100.00 for the same mileage???? You guys kill me....That will not work... Ok Ok OK!!!!! Lemme guess you wanna get something going back home...But sheesh!!!! Blow 1 tire at least to say and you made nothing.... Step up make them people who bought the cattle pay you....Had to get this off my chest"

yep yep! You can have more than one blow out running recaps on trailer. Mud flaps, lights n bumper add up quick!!! Step it up!
del riO,TX

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Posted Wed, Mar 28 2012 10:56 AM CST
DOUG WARD
CATTLE RUSTLERS TRUCKING, LLC
STUARTS DRAFT, VA

Posts: 5
Whats crazy is I just saw a load posted last night from Texas to Georgia paying $1.50 a mile to the truck and someone hauled it! Are you serious. If people refuse to haul it, the buyers will have no choice but pay the rate needed. I honest to God dont understand how anyone can even survive off a $1.50 a mile. REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE
Posted Wed, Mar 28 2012 04:05 PM CST
JAKE MCCALL
-JK BAR JK TRANSPORT
CAMERON, TX

Posts: 28
Originally Posted by: DOUG WARD
Quote: "Whats crazy is I just saw a load posted last night from Texas to Georgia paying $1.50 a mile to the truck and someone hauled it! Are you serious. If people refuse to haul it, the buyers will have no choice but pay the rate needed. I honest to God dont understand how anyone can even survive off a $1.50 a mile."

Yes, I seen the same load , it loaded 30 miles from
where I live. Figure the rate and it came out to
bout a 1.62 per mile . One way . But the load didnt
stay on the board long at all . Needless to sayI'm
still sittin at home . GOD BLESS AMERICA
AND GOD BLESS JOHN WAYNE. HAPPY TRAILS
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Posted Thu, Mar 29 2012 11:41 AM CST
JOHN UPSHAW
JOHN UPSHAW
WILLISTON, ND

Posts: 4
The brokers are the ones doing this. Caught one two weeks ago trimming .40 off the top and still was going to take his 5%. At a base of 4.00 that would be .58 to the broker. Almost twice what I get paid. Needless to say he didn't get it covered d. Gentleman ended up calling us to haul it and said he was going to pay the broker 4.00. REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE
Posted Fri, Mar 30 2012 09:02 AM CST
PAUL VAN KEKERIX
VAN KEKERIX TRUCKING INC.
ROCK VALLEY, IA
712-541-7583

Posts: 12
I have 5 axles (spread) . Why anybody with 6 7 or 8 haul tandem axle rate? Keep the buyer happy,better than nothing,not going to give away a load. I have heard lots excuses.
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Posted Wed, Apr 11 2012 09:01 PM CST
BRIAN DUGGER
C&B CATTLE DISPATCH@YAHOO.COM
ELIZABETHTOWN, KY
270-401-3731

Posts: 3
well fellas im a broker and trust me I am looking out for you. I think the loads should pay more too. these guys are making alot of money on these cattle and thier prices keep going up, so ours should do the same

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Posted Wed, Apr 11 2012 09:14 PM CST
SHANE MICHEL
ROGUE
FRANKFORT, KY

Posts: 3
When I hear 1.50 a mile, I think of SCABS! They are undercutin the whole industry.. Blowing one tire.. There is a whole lot more than tires that can go wrong.,. I hate to think like this but we need a Union.. Where is Jimmy Hoffa when we need him?? I was reading the post on actual costs, and alot of it makes sence.. We calculate distance and fuel average for whichever truck we send, and try to come up with a fair price that makes it worth while, with out trying to beat our selves up too much. Evenwith the new trucks, stuff goes wrong, and we have to eat the shit we are haulin. We keep a couple bull haulers busy for our own needs and load it out a bit here and there, but focus mainly on heavy equipment with detach/ step/ and flatbeds from Kentucky.. Call if you need some thing moved.. 5023306316
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Posted Mon, Apr 16 2012 10:43 AM CST
DENNIS OR TRAVIS THOMPSON
SWANSON FARMS
LA FAYETTE, GA
423-309-5157

Posts: 5
That's right and as long as anyone hauls for free they'll sure let you. Don't be impolite just thanks but NO THANKS!!!
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Posted Mon, Apr 16 2012 02:09 PM CST
JAKE MCCALL
-JK BAR JK TRANSPORT
CAMERON, TX

Posts: 28
Originally Posted by: DENNIS OR TRAVIS THOMPSON
Quote: "That's right and as long as anyone hauls for free they'll sure let you. Don't be impolite just thanks but NO THANKS!!! "

Has it been that long, since i hauled
a load of cattle. I dont think it has,
jus thought i wuz dreamin, some of
the rates people are wanting some
one to haul for , and for every 5 people
that refuse to haul the load there is some
One that will haul it. Lets see 3.00,3.30,3.40
and some flat rates around 1550. for
900 plus miles. I know the peek season
is jus bout here, and boy am i ever glad.
Maybe i can finally get to haulin some cattle
maybe the rates will be like they should. The rate
wuz 3.75 last year and fuel has gone up
since than (at least where i get it at)
The only loads i see at 4.00 /mile is the
loads coming out of the west coast. Jus wanted
to hope everyone is makin plenty of money.
GOD BLESS AMERICA & GOD BLESS JOHN
WAYNE HAPPY TRAILS PARDNER
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Posted Tue, Apr 24 2012 03:42 PM CST
DOUG WARD
CATTLE RUSTLERS TRUCKING, LLC
STUARTS DRAFT, VA

Posts: 5
Ok, there is another load posted on the load board, Lexington Texas to Augusta Georgia. $1600 flat. REALLY! Its 1,011 miles......$1.57 a mile.....WHY ARE PEOPLE HAULING THIS???? I just dont understand anymore how anyone can justify loading that on their truck. There is no backhauls in the cattle business. We dont have freight lanes. When are people going to grow a set and just say NO! REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE
Posted Sat, Apr 28 2012 09:02 PM CST
CHRIS THOMAS
SDE TRUCKING
MCMINNVILLE, TN
931-314-0693

Posts: 8
augusta.... must be an f.p.l. load... i was in texas 3 months ago and was offered the same price out of paris... lol no way. REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE
Posted Sun, Apr 29 2012 03:36 PM CST
CHUCK WOLF
CW WOLF TRUCKING
SILVER CITY, NM
575-538-5903

Posts: 5
Originally Posted by: DOUG WARD
Quote: "Ok, there is another load posted on the load board, Lexington Texas to Augusta Georgia. $1600 flat. REALLY! Its 1,011 miles......$1.57 a mile.....WHY ARE PEOPLE HAULING THIS???? I just dont understand anymore how anyone can justify loading that on their truck. There is no backhauls in the cattle business. We dont have freight lanes. When are people going to grow a set and just say NO!"

I actually laughed out loud when I read that. The only thing I could think was that it was a few steers to be hauled by a pickup truck, LOL!!
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Posted Tue, May 01 2012 10:37 PM CST
MATT FRISK
FRISK FARMS TRUCKING LLC
GENESEO, IL
309-945-7535

Posts: 1
Originally Posted by: CHUCK WOLF
Quote: "I actually laughed out loud when I read that. The only thing I could think was that it was a few steers to be hauled by a pickup truck, LOL!!"


I run a pickup and gooseneck hauling for some small producers in northern IL and i would have laughed at that rate. I get more than that on a running mile pulling someone elses trailer. ( when they break down) There are to many people doing it with little trucks up here without all the proper permits and authority doing it to cheap. Right now i'm running 3.25 a loaded mile for floor loads. 3.5 a loaded mile for decked loads and $100 minium to leave the house. and that is with a pickup getting 9mpg. It has to be 3.5 a mile before i even consider starting the semi.
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Posted Thu, May 03 2012 06:13 PM CST
JAKE MCCALL
-JK BAR JK TRANSPORT
CAMERON, TX

Posts: 28
Originally Posted by: MATT FRISK
Quote: " I run a pickup and gooseneck hauling for some small producers in northern IL and i would have laughed at that rate. I get more than that on a running mile pulling someone elses trailer. ( when they break down) There are to many people doing it with little trucks up here without all the proper permits and authority doing it to cheap. Right now i'm running 3.25 a loaded mile for floor loads. 3.5 a loaded mile for decked loads and $100 minium to leave the house. and that is with a pickup getting 9mpg. It has to be 3.5 a mile before i even consider starting the semi. "

I see these loads posted coming out of
Texas,Ark,Kansas,and etc goin east to
Ga paying bout 1.65 ish and you question
them and they tell you that it pays backhaul
rate. Then you reload in Ga,Fla , and I see
them posted goin back west to Neb , Kansas
payin 3.00 a mile. The full rate that I'm aware
of is around 3.75 - 3.95 , so I'm jus wonderin
is that a backhaul both ways. I understand
to cut down on empty miles, and avg cost
per mile , if we always haul for bkh rate,
Then it want be long before they all are goin
want to pay that rate. So lets stick to our guns
And do what's best for the cattle haulin
industry. GOD BLESS AMERICA AND
GOD BLESS JOHN WAYNE HAPPY TRAILS
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Posted Fri, May 04 2012 10:47 AM CST
DENNIS OR TRAVIS THOMPSON
SWANSON FARMS
LA FAYETTE, GA
423-309-5157

Posts: 5
Originally Posted by: DOUG WARD
Quote: "Whats crazy is I just saw a load posted last night from Texas to Georgia paying $1.50 a mile to the truck and someone hauled it! Are you serious. If people refuse to haul it, the buyers will have no choice but pay the rate needed. I honest to God dont understand how anyone can even survive off a $1.50 a mile."

What they don't seem to understand is that there is no such thing as a backhaul. You're backhaul is my head haul and vice versa. When you haul loads for the so called back haul rate you're not only cutting your own throat but also that of your brother truckers. Truckers and trucking companies in general need to wake up and stop being a bunch of scabs. Van haulers are the worse but it seems to be creeping in to the livestock business. WAKE UP FOLKS!

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Posted Sun, Sep 02 2012 02:37 PM CST
JERRY MCFADIN
JERRY MCFADIN
GONZALES, TX

Posts: 4
Whats bad is the shipper can usually afford to pay the higher rate. It makes me mad to hear them say that they are not making any money sitting in their new 50,000 pickup in front of their 500,000 house. Everybody needs to make a good living. Let those cattle stand until they have to pay a good rate. You might miss a bad load but maybe in time it will be a good load. REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE
Posted Mon, Sep 03 2012 09:50 AM CST
ANTHONY SEALE
SEALE LIVESTOCK
LAMPASAS, TX
512-734-6405

Posts: 3

All these guys cant figure out that you can sit at home and go broke just as easy as they can run the roads and wear there equiptment out, maybe someday we can get all the worms weaved out of the cattle industry

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Posted Thu, Sep 06 2012 12:03 AM CST
JESSIE SHERMAN
BAR S LAND & CATTLE CO IND
IXONIA, WI

Posts: 15
You all talk about the cheap rate of hauling livestock. That the Shipper's are sitting in their $50,000 dollar Pick-ups with his/her $500,000 dollar homes. Not all Rancher's have these luxuries. Like Trucker's, and Trucking companies these people have Overhead expenses. In today's Market, and with the rise in feed cost, and his/her bill's,property taxes,and such. This is one reason for the low paying rates to haul their livestock. Today it is harder for the rancher's to make end's meet. Just like many people in this Country. I drove OTR for 22 years,and grew up in the trucking industry. I have heard driver's on the radio complaining about the low rates paid to haul freight,or livestock. Many factor's over the years have contributed to the demise of the rate. just as Insurance companies now run the Trucking Industry. Instead of complaining about the thing's that bother you. Take a lesson from the Pioneer's of this business, and learn to stand up for yourselves. Learn to say NO!. The companies have Bullied the driver's into submission of fearing for his/her job.So they bow down to the threats of the lose of their job's.The industry cries Driver Shortage. Just as in any job. There is another one down the road. Remember people will always need their food,and other basic necessities to live life. So Truck drivers will alway's be needed. REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE
Posted Thu, Sep 06 2012 12:03 AM CST
JESSIE SHERMAN
BAR S LAND & CATTLE CO IND
IXONIA, WI

Posts: 15
You all talk about the cheap rate of hauling livestock. That the Shipper's are sitting in their $50,000 dollar Pick-ups with his/her $500,000 dollar homes. Not all Rancher's have these luxuries. Like Trucker's, and Trucking companies these people have Overhead expenses. In today's Market, and with the rise in feed cost, and his/her bill's,property taxes,and such. This is one reason for the low paying rates to haul their livestock. Today it is harder for the rancher's to make end's meet. Just like many people in this Country. I drove OTR for 22 years,and grew up in the trucking industry. I have heard driver's on the radio complaining about the low rates paid to haul freight,or livestock. Many factor's over the years have contributed to the demise of the rate. just as Insurance companies now run the Trucking Industry. Instead of complaining about the thing's that bother you. Take a lesson from the Pioneer's of this business, and learn to stand up for yourselves. Learn to say NO!. The companies have Bullied the driver's into submission of fearing for his/her job.So they bow down to the threats of the lose of their job's.The industry cries Driver Shortage. Just as in any job. There is another one down the road. Remember people will always need their food,and other basic necessities to live life. So Truck drivers will alway's be needed. REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE
Posted Fri, Sep 07 2012 03:01 PM CST
CLINT FULK
FULK&SON TRUCKING
DUGGER, IN
812-798-5531

Posts: 4

EVERY ONE NEEDS TO PARK-IM FOR WEEK AND WATCH WHAT HAPPINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT WOULDNT BE ANY DIFF THAN GOING ON VAC IF A WEEK WILL BREAK US WE DONT NEED TRUCKS ANY WAY

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