JUST A THOUGHT OF.......
Posted Sat, Jan 15 2011 09:54 AM CST
KELLY WILLIAMSON
KELLY WILLIAMSON
POLLOK, TX
936-671-0485

Posts: 4

What is going to be the "New Thing" in the future when trucks/drivers(in the cattle hauling business) get overweight tickets now that csa 2010 as come into play and started this new scoring system.

Will drivers go find other jobs in other fields when they loose the lincense from the point system? Will the trucking company simply close up shop when they get there authority pulled due to using up all points?

Will the trucking end of this great industry force the shippers to load legal?

Just my thoughts...........Whats your

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Posted Sat, Jan 15 2011 12:55 PM CST
STEVEN HOMFELD
B&S LIVESTOCK
HIGGINSVILLE, MO
660-641-0185

Posts: 11
Originally Posted by: KELLY WILLIAMSON
Quote: " What is going to be the New Thing in the future when trucks/drivers(in the cattle hauling business) get overweight tickets now that csa 2010 as come into play and started this new scoring system. Will drivers go find other jobs in other fields when they loose the lincense from the point system? Will the trucking company simply close up shop when they get there authority pulled due to using up all points? Will the trucking end of this great industry force the shippers to load legal? Just my thoughts...........Whats your"

I think ifr it was me getting the ticket i would ask the officer to make one out to the broker and the owner of the cattle. He will tell u he cant give them a ticket but you can sign the tickrt as a officer of the law and they will have a fine too.The drive's today have the right to say no to over loads.I think broker's and owner have been gettin loads hauled for half price of what it should be at.

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Posted Sat, Jan 15 2011 05:42 PM CST
MICHAEL FRITZ
FRITZ TRUCKING
FREDERICKSBURG, TX
830-688-6667

Posts: 26
I was told by DOT in Tx overweights don't count against points but who knows they all got a different answer for the same question sometimes leaving us all wonder what's right and what's wrong. REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE
Posted Sat, Jan 15 2011 06:42 PM CST
ESTER KILLJOY
FAMILY AFFAIR DISPATCH
HUNTSVILLE, AL

Posts: 9
its all geting harder but think of it like this 10 years ago lots of shipper would ship 15 loads and order 10 trucks but pay us no more we sld of got alot more now they will need or have to actully pay for all the trucks they sould of been using. lets all just hope rates go up as fast as fuel!! Have a great weekend. REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE
Posted Sat, Jan 15 2011 07:07 PM CST
SEAN N
SMN TRANS
KIRKSEY, KY
970-420-7092

Posts: 20

Points are only assessed if an inspection is done, be it a level 1, 2, or 3. An overweight ticket may not accrue any points if there is no inspection done. Also, the CSA points have nothing to do with your drivers license.
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Posted Sat, Jan 15 2011 08:37 PM CST
DUANE JACKSON
DJ TRUCKING
LONG PINE, NE
402-822-0045

Posts: 1
I was allso told by the D.O.T. in NE. that overweights don't add points REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE
Posted Sat, Jan 15 2011 08:48 PM CST
STEVEN HOMFELD
B&S LIVESTOCK
HIGGINSVILLE, MO
660-641-0185

Posts: 11
Originally Posted by: MICHAEL FRITZ
Quote: "I was told by DOT in Tx overweights don't count against points but who knows they all got a different answer for the same question sometimes leaving us all wonder what's right and what's wrong."

Yes they do count. Thats what the csa rule book by jj keller.
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Posted Sun, Jan 16 2011 08:25 AM CST
CHARLIE NEWSOM
CANEY CREEK TRUCKING
, TX
903-388-5635

Posts: 12
Originally Posted by: SEAN N
Quote: " Points are only assessed if an inspection is done, be it a level 1, 2, or 3. An overweight ticket may not accrue any points if there is no inspection done. Also, the CSA points have nothing to do with your drivers license. "


I heard that any thing that goes against the truck goes against your drivers liscnse over wieght tickets are a moving violation just like speed and so on

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Posted Sun, Jan 16 2011 02:20 PM CST
STEVEN HOMFELD
B&S LIVESTOCK
HIGGINSVILLE, MO
660-641-0185

Posts: 11
Originally Posted by: SEAN N
Quote: " Points are only assessed if an inspection is done, be it a level 1, 2, or 3. An overweight ticket may not accrue any points if there is no inspection done. Also, the CSA points have nothing to do with your drivers license. "

So how may time's do u think the dot are not going to to do a level 3 just to put a mark on a company.If a drive or a company get too may points they can be put out of work for up to 3 years.Driver's can go from one company to another with too may point's.Company's can not just start up a new company .
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Posted Sun, Jan 16 2011 03:30 PM CST
DEREK LUKASSEN
LUKASSEN TRUCKING INC.
KIMBALL, NE
308-235-5596

Posts: 4
Originally Posted by: SEAN N
Quote: " Points are only assessed if an inspection is done, be it a level 1, 2, or 3. An overweight ticket may not accrue any points if there is no inspection done. Also, the CSA points have nothing to do with your drivers license. "

i was told the same thing points are only incurred if an inspection is done. and that the csa points dont count against your drivers license i was told that is another driver record that for companies to look at in a hiring situation. Im not an expert by far this is just how it was explained to me.

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Posted Sun, Jan 16 2011 03:36 PM CST
SEAN N
SMN TRANS
KIRKSEY, KY
970-420-7092

Posts: 20
Originally Posted by: CHARLIE NEWSOM
Quote: " I heard that any thing that goes against the truck goes against your drivers liscnse over wieght tickets are a moving violation just like speed and so on "


That is the problem, everyone "hears" something, but, never actually takes the time to find out for themselves. The only way to combat these types of overbearing government regulation is to become educated on the subject. I wonder how many have taken the time to read over the new hos proposal, and then leave comments for the fmcsa. I would be willing to bet not many. Then when it becomes law everyone will complain about the new rules. Once again csa 2010 has nothing to do with your actual drivers license, and if you believe it does, then I have to believe you also believe in black dogs running out in front of you when you are tired, or, a dot man giving you a hard time because his wife ran off with a truck driver and now he picks on all of them, and so on............................
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Posted Sun, Jan 16 2011 09:00 PM CST
STEVEN HOMFELD
B&S LIVESTOCK
HIGGINSVILLE, MO
660-641-0185

Posts: 11
Originally Posted by: SEAN N
Quote: " That is the problem, everyone hears something, but, never actually takes the time to find out for themselves. The only way to combat these types of overbearing government regulation is to become educated on the subject. I wonder how many have taken the time to read over the new hos proposal, and then leave comments for the fmcsa. I would be willing to bet not many. Then when it becomes law everyone will complain about the new rules. Once again csa 2010 has nothing to do with your actual drivers license, and if you believe it does, then I have to believe you also believe in black dogs running out in front of you when you are tired, or, a dot man giving you a hard time because his wife ran off with a truck driver and now he picks on all of them, and so on............................"

I have the rule book and your license have a number on it and as a driver the csa points go on that number.There for you get too many points you loss your job and them points are what insurence co look at when you try to get a job with another company and they can't hire you because you have too many point.The csa 2010 law's started as of 12/12/2010 in all state's.
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Posted Mon, Jan 17 2011 04:33 AM CST
CHARLIE NEWSOM
CANEY CREEK TRUCKING
, TX
903-388-5635

Posts: 12

I bet you if you get a ticket for over wieght or any valation your driver liscnes number going to be on the ticket not the trucking company you need to wake up and use your head not all your wild ideals . I bet you lose yours liscnse before the company loses theres what do you think
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Posted Mon, Jan 17 2011 04:50 AM CST
CHARLIE NEWSOM
CANEY CREEK TRUCKING
, TX
903-388-5635

Posts: 12
Originally Posted by: SEAN N
Quote: " That is the problem, everyone hears something, but, never actually takes the time to find out for themselves. The only way to combat these types of overbearing government regulation is to become educated on the subject. I wonder how many have taken the time to read over the new hos proposal, and then leave comments for the fmcsa. I would be willing to bet not many. Then when it becomes law everyone will complain about the new rules. Once again csa 2010 has nothing to do with your actual drivers license, and if you believe it does, then I have to believe you also believe in black dogs running out in front of you when you are tired, or, a dot man giving you a hard time because his wife ran off with a truck driver and now he picks on all of them, and so on............................"


Run your drivers lisnces number after you get a ticket for over wieght or so on and see if your driver lisnces number was on the ticket or your company numbers on it your number going to be there thank about that. YOUR COMPANY DOES NOT HAVE A DRIVER LISNCES NUMBER THATS WHY THE DPS GIVES YOU THE TICKET IF NOT PAID YOUR ASS GOES TO JAIL NOT THE COMPANY
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Posted Mon, Jan 17 2011 07:32 AM CST
WALTER BREWER
BREWER TRUCKING
PONCA CITY, OK
580-761-0814

Posts: 50
If you get any ticket speeding, overweight, light out, and warning tickets will give the driver points now. As a company you may want to hire a person but it will be the insurance company telling you who to hire and fire. REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE
Posted Mon, Jan 17 2011 08:58 AM CST
SEAN N
SMN TRANS
KIRKSEY, KY
970-420-7092

Posts: 20
Originally Posted by: CHARLIE NEWSOM
Quote: " I bet you if you get a ticket for over wieght or any valation your driver liscnes number going to be on the ticket not the trucking company you need to wake up and use your head not all your wild ideals . I bet you lose yours liscnse before the company loses theres what do you think"


What I think is that you are getting your information at the lunch counter! Do yourself a favor and go visit the csa website. They have a whole FAQ section that dispells a lot of the rumors. CSA points do not go on your license! There will be no "losing your CDL because of too many CSA points". Some safety guy, or insurance man may say you are uninsurable if you accrue too many points, but, you are not going to lose your license. It may become worthless to a point yes, but, no one is going to take it from you. The only way to lose it now are the same as before, i.e. dui, speeding tickets, wreckless driving, etc. The worse part about all of it I think is that insurance companies may have more reason to gouge you with high prices, which are high enough as it is.

Why do people take things so personally? I am just trying to offer up some information from what I have learned and read. I would post the information here that I have read, but, I don't know how to copy and paste links, and all that kind of stuff.
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Posted Mon, Jan 17 2011 09:28 AM CST
STEVEN HOMFELD
B&S LIVESTOCK
HIGGINSVILLE, MO
660-641-0185

Posts: 11
Originally Posted by: SEAN N
Quote: " What I think is that you are getting your information at the lunch counter! Do yourself a favor and go visit the csa website. They have a whole FAQ section that dispells a lot of the rumors. CSA points do not go on your license! There will be no losing your CDL because of too many CSA points. Some safety guy, or insurance man may say you are uninsurable if you accrue too many points, but, you are not going to lose your license. It may become worthless to a point yes, but, no one is going to take it from you. The only way to lose it now are the same as before, i.e. dui, speeding tickets, wreckless driving, etc. The worse part about all of it I think is that insurance companies may have more reason to gouge you with high prices, which are high enough as it is. Why do people take things so personally? I am just trying to offer up some information from what I have learned and read. I would post the information here that I have read, but, I don't know how to copy and paste links, and all that kind of stuff."

Noboby said anything about lossing your license. That is the number the csa poeple will use for the driver.I as a company i have the csa 2010 rule book so iam not just at the launch counter running lips.For the guy was talking about company not haveing a drive license on a ticket. But they do have there dot number on there yes if you dont pay your fine the company can get a market on them too.They willnt go too jail or anything but it can make so they cant license that truck the next year with out getting a level 1 inspection been their bone that no fun.
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Posted Mon, Jan 17 2011 12:13 PM CST
KELLY WILLIAMSON
KELLY WILLIAMSON
POLLOK, TX
936-671-0485

Posts: 4
I did some digging around so I could further educate myself and I Found out that indeed the overweight tickets do NOT go against your CDL. They were going to but decided NOT to.

I found that out via computer and the safety man at a local trucking company.

Hope this helps yall as much as it did me.
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Posted Tue, Jan 18 2011 06:20 AM CST
JOHN WALLEN
4W LIVESTOCK
KENSINGTON, KS
719-568-2447

Posts: 5
They might not count in Tx. but they do in Colo. I just went through a DOT audit last week, passed with flying colors, and I ask the trooper this very question. Overweights are treated like moving violations. This also holds true in Ks. I personally think it is bull since our buisiness is done by weight most of the time. Colo. State Patrol now does all the inspections here and the ports of entry just check weight, D/L, and registration...no inspections anymore, only if CSP is there and if they feel an inspection is needed they will call CSP. This also includes all of their mobile units. This is the information given to me when I had the audit. Hopes this helps.
I personally think all of this is just a ploy to get rid of all the old time drivers, who are not afraid of the DOT. The new drivers can be molded to what the government wants. Just my opinion. Take care all and be safe....
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Posted Wed, Jan 19 2011 07:28 AM CST
CHARLIE NEWSOM
CANEY CREEK TRUCKING
, TX
903-388-5635

Posts: 12
Originally Posted by: JOHN WALLEN
Quote: "They might not count in Tx. but they do in Colo. I just went through a DOT audit last week, passed with flying colors, and I ask the trooper this very question. Overweights are treated like moving violations. This also holds true in Ks. I personally think it is bull since our buisiness is done by weight most of the time. Colo. State Patrol now does all the inspections here and the ports of entry just check weight, D/L, and registration...no inspections anymore, only if CSP is there and if they feel an inspection is needed they will call CSP. This also includes all of their mobile units. This is the information given to me when I had the audit. Hopes this helps. I personally think all of this is just a ploy to get rid of all the old time drivers, who are not afraid of the DOT. The new drivers can be molded to what the government wants. Just my opinion. Take care all and be safe...."


All it takes is one state to put on back burner and hurt you or licnes run 50 states not just the state you live in thank about it THIS GUY THAT I QUOTED ON IS RIGHT
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Posted Thu, Feb 03 2011 12:02 AM CST
COLLEEN GOODRICH
JUST TRUCKIN
CHIPPEWA FALLS, WI

Posts: 12

Drivers now have a federal safety rating
ALL citations be it a moving or none moving violation go against this rating
Moving violations are determined by the state that the citation is wrote in.
a good DOT inspection will help the driver and the companies safety ratings now.

this safety rating can be accessed by anyone on the internet if you know where to look it is like the DOT safety rating for a trucking company.

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Posted Thu, Feb 03 2011 03:55 PM CST
BRUCE WRIGHT
M LAZY J LIVESTOCK
HARLOWTON, MT

Posts: 24
I'am not as spooked about weigh tickets as log books . Frigging cow trucks have a bulls eyes on them. REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE