LOAD AUCTION?
Posted Fri, Nov 20 2009 12:26 AM CST
MICHAEL FRITZ
Posts: 26
Well here's my two cents even though no one ask for it. Here we have load board that advertises to bring ranchers together with truckers when in all actuallity was created for cattle buyers and brokers. It gives them the means to auction their loads to all us starving truckers. The load board has proven itself already in other areas of the trucking industry and how it has ruined their rates. Are we goin to let the same happen here?I'd say proly so cause we all struggling and need the work too bad. I mean who dictates a week off in nov and two in dec? Answer, the guys that are rapin us on freight! Must be nice to afford 3 weeks of vacation in the busy season! Please give some input let me know wt yall think. REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE
Posted Fri, Nov 20 2009 05:18 AM CST
WALTER BREWER
Posts: 50

Well these load boards are OK but they are what is killing the rates. The people that have extra loads to cover would not spend all day on the phone calling trying to find cheap trucks, they would give you the full rate just to get them covered.  They are collection the full rate on all these loads anyway, but with these load board they can cut the rate and fish for someone to work for nothing.

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Posted Sat, Nov 21 2009 05:38 AM CST
MICHAEL FRITZ
Posts: 26
Agree with havin regular customers to survive versus loadboard. But how long are our loyal customers gona stick with us when they see brokers gettin it dun for 2.50 and we chargin 3.25? There's no reasoning cheap rates as good healthy competition! REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE
Posted Sat, Nov 21 2009 10:02 AM CST
SEAN N
Posts: 20

I think that the rates being what they are is just the free market at work.  There is great competition between trucks.  As with anything else competition is going to lower the price.  If you are buying a new tv, do you go where it is the cheapest?  I'm guessing most would answer yes to that question.  Buyers, and shippers of any kind are going to do the same, especially if they are dealing with larger quantities.  Of course there are those that are loyal to one service provider, and the rate there stays good.  I figure most who struggle lack the one or two good loyal customers that keep a truck making money.  Trying to survive off a broker, or load board is a hard way to go.  Obviously everyday demand for trucks just isn't there, hence the low rates.  You can't, or won't do it for X dollars, then there is another truck parked that will.  Maybe he can make money at the rate being offered, maybe he can't.  But, if he takes the load that is his choice, and business.  Crying about rates will not make demand go up.  More trucks going out of business will though.

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Posted Sun, Nov 22 2009 06:34 AM CST
WALTER BREWER
Posts: 50
Originally Posted by: MICHAEL FRITZ
Quote: "Agree with havin regular customers to survive versus loadboard. But how long are our loyal customers gona stick with us when they see brokers gettin it dun for 2.50 and we chargin 3.25? There's no reasoning cheap rates as good healthy competition!"

The brokers I believe are charging the 3.00 to 3.20   but with load boards they can put them out for 2.50 get someone to cover them and they make good money for that phone call. They are not charging the owner of the cattle this low rate.

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Posted Sun, Nov 22 2009 11:02 PM CST
M S M
Posts: 17
Originally Posted by: MICHAEL FRITZ
Quote: "brokers makin 50to70 cents a mile! That's my point , who is the load board truly designed for? Lazy ass buyers and brokers, that's who!"

First off, I'm not a broker... Now the $2.50 load you are calling on may be put up by a broker, but check on them and see if they have there legals in order to be a broker. If not a snake is a snake and they won't be there long. If it's a buyer / agent, they make they're money on the hundred weight buying and typically don't need to be charging $0.35-0.70 per mile you run. Mostly because if they are shipping 3 loads at 50k weight getting there commision as a buyer.. they are already making $7500 commision and the packers or feedlots usually pay the truck. If you work for a broker moving loads at that rate.. check em out. The cost for them to file bonds and run their liabilities should be there too.

I personally know a handfull of buyers and agents that charge a load fee of say $25 per load. They undestand the good faith of keeping trucks going and making sure their clients are taken care of. (and $25 is a cheap cost for a load) Are all that way. Nope! but you can choose to use them for pay or not. It may only pay your fuel going back to your good load. That doesn't mean sign a contract as their exclusive carrier and take it in the shorts each time. Your truck is powered by what you want it to do.

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Posted Mon, Nov 23 2009 07:46 AM CST
BOBBY CRAWFORD
Posts: 9

WELL WHEN I STARTED DOING THIS EVERY ONE KEPT THEIR MOUTH SHUT ABOUT WHERE THEY WHERE GOING WHERE THEY BEEN WHAT THEY WERE CHARGING YOU DONT HAVE THE SAME BREED ANYMORE BROKERS KNOW THIS

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Posted Mon, Nov 23 2009 09:11 AM CST
MAT MORALES
Posts: 30
if you have regular customers and steady work do you really need 3.25 a mile? Isnt steady work worth somthing if u have checks showing up every week and ur able to pay cash for fuel? Whats some thoughts on that? REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE
Posted Mon, Nov 23 2009 10:06 AM CST
MICHAEL FRITZ
Posts: 26
brokers makin 50to70 cents a mile! That's my point , who is the load board truly designed for? Lazy ass buyers and brokers, that's who! REPLY REPLY WITH QUOTE