JUST THINKING
Posted Wed, Sep 02 2009 06:09 AM CST
WALTER BREWER
Posts: 50

I think that if you take one of these loads on here at these low rates you need to tell the receiver / owner when you unload what the load is paying. The buyer of the cattle should know what the trucking is so when he get billed that the rate he gets is not .50 to a 1.00 more than the actual cost.. I think this will help these low rates. I might be mistaken, but I believe they are being charged the full rate and someone is keeping the rest.

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Posted Thu, Sep 03 2009 08:11 AM CST
SHAWN HARMON
Posts: 4
Originally Posted by: BULLSEYE DISPATCH INC,
Quote: "I would venture to say that will be the last time you disclose rates and miles to a customer for that buyer! Just my personal feelings. Bullseye Bill"

WOW straight from the horses mouth on that one bill

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Posted Thu, Sep 03 2009 10:25 AM CST
BULLSEYE DISPATCH INC,
Posts: 2

I would venture to say that will be the last time you disclose rates and miles to a customer for that buyer! Just my personal feelings.

Bullseye Bill

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Posted Sat, Sep 05 2009 10:20 AM CST
M S M
Posts: 17

You know, maybe I just read that wrong but if the buyer set your load up and you then ran the load... one of two things should have happened.

1 - The buyer is your billing customer and the load is shipped to Joe whoever with the same standards of quality and care. Your billing between the buyer/agent and yourself has nothing to do with Joe whoever and if you said anything your professionalism needs to be limited to the loading and shifting the truck only.

2 - If the buyer agent set your load up and your billing Joe whoever... you should know the rate for shipment period before loading or committing. if there is a problem with the billing not being paid for some reason, keep on Joe whoever until you need to collect alliteratively and then communicate with the buyer. Chances are he has not been paid either and that my friend is a bad client and "anyone" can get bad clients.

It doesn't matter what you do in life.. it's all people and money. No matter how well you take care of the people you work with and for, sometimes they need to be encouraged on the money. If the rate was much lower than you expected, this should have been knowledge you were well aware of before you put out had earned capital to do the job. Knowing your complete CPM and were you can bend and fluctuate to keep you averages helps you keep monies flowing to the bank!

The flip side of that coin is... If you go around the buyer to bill a higher amount, that's bad business and you lost the Joe whoever as a client and the buyer as well. Your averages are sure to go down from two mad clients you work for an the four hundred people they just told about your business practices.

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Posted Mon, Sep 07 2009 06:07 AM CST
BULLSEYE DISPATCH INC,
BULLS EYE DISPATCH
KANKAKEE, IL
815-614-3611

Posts: 2

What I meant was exactly what he was saying about the rate is between the buyer/broker and you not the customer that is recieving the load and you. And if the buyer catches wind that you are talking figure's with his customer he will most likely not want to do business with you anymore.Thats what I am saying sorry if I wasn't clear.

Bullseye Bill

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Posted Mon, Sep 07 2009 08:52 AM CST
WALTER BREWER
Posts: 50
Originally Posted by: M S M
Quote: "You know, maybe I just read that wrong but if the buyer set your load up and you then ran the load... one of two things should have happened. 1 - The buyer is your billing customer and the load is shipped to Joe whoever with the same standards of quality and care. Your billing between the buyer/agent and yourself has nothing to do with Joe whoever and if you said anything your professionalism needs to be limited to the loading and shifting the truck only. 2 - If the buyer agent set your load up and your billing Joe whoever... you should know the rate for shipment period before loading or committing. if there is a problem with the billing not being paid for some reason, keep on Joe whoever until you need to collect alliteratively and then communicate with the buyer. Chances are he has not been paid either and that my friend is a bad client and "anyone" can get bad clients. It doesn't matter what you do in life.. it's all people and money. No matter how well you take care of the people you work with and for, sometimes they need to be encouraged on the money. If the rate was much lower than you expected, this should have been knowledge you were well aware of before you put out had earned capital to do the job. Knowing your complete CPM and were you can bend and fluctuate to keep you averages helps you keep monies flowing to the bank! The flip side of that coin is... If you go around the buyer to bill a higher amount, that's bad business and you lost the Joe whoever as a client and the buyer as well. Your averages are sure to go down from two mad clients you work for an the four hundred people they just told about your business practices."

I agree with you. What I am talking about is the rates on here. I have talked to a few  on here and they say it is all they can pay because they have already have the rate set with the man getting the cattle. I don't know any of the buyers I haul for setting in rate at low price, maybe the are just on here. But looking at the second post makes me think the rates on what they bill and what the pay the truck is not the same.

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Posted Tue, Sep 08 2009 11:13 AM CST
MIKE CHALUPA
Posts: 18

Every thing should be up front the customer should know what the rate is if he is being billed for the trucking . the load broker deserves pay for setting up trucks the cattle buyer gets paid for buying cattle . I shipped some loads and used a broker to find trucks to save me the time of hunting trucks the broker ask what I wanted to pay I told him around three dollars a mile as my loads were in a area that the trucks would have to dead head to . after shiping out several loads the truckers were not happy and I thought I was paying a really fair price so that I would have trucks when I needed them but come to find out the broker was paying the trucks $1.50 per mile that was the last I used that broker I had thought he was holding 5% or 10% but he was really screwing the truckers so every one should know what the rate is and every one stay honest.

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Posted Wed, Sep 09 2009 03:18 AM CST
M S M
Posts: 17

Well anyone can say... Get it up front. The fact is when loads are released to a broker (good or bad brokers), if legal and wanting to build their business, they should be putting to you the same contracts or paperwork you put to your client. The stipulations that go with any broker are as tough as a carriers. Check em out before you use them and get his percentage in ink.. Protect your business and the other trucks out there. Most of all protect your clients! Brokers are in it for the same reasons, to make monies. Just the same as bad lowball carriers, not all are looking for business a year away. It's all about todays buck.....

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